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Battlestar Galactica - Daybreak, Part 2

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Major spoilers ahead. Read at your own risk.

''Whaddya hear, Starbuck?''
''Nothing but the rain.''
''Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.''

Here's the truth about series finales. You never know what to expect, so there will always be some trepidation, high expectations, maybe even a bit of frustration as it ends up being not quite what you expected. Series finales have a knack for doing just that. Does Battlestar Galactica raise the bar and deliver one fantastic finale?

I think it does.

Recap

Daybreak, Part 2 begins much like its other half, with flashbacks. Roslin meets the mysterious Shaun who ends up being a former student. Kara and Lee get to know each other better with the assistance of a little alcohol. Bill, Ellen, and Tigh are celebrating retirement as the former contemplates going through that interview and taking a desk job. Then the scene shifts to the present and we're back on Galactica with Baltar who sits alone and is being told by Head Six that he's following God's plan. He finds no comfort in this.

Back in sickbay, Cottle gives Roslin enough medication to last her 48 hours. They say farewell, and she thanks him for keeping her alive. Cottle says he's only doing his job, but it's obviously more than that. It's a truly beautiful scene.

Preparations continue around the ship. Adama makes Hoshi the new Admiral of the Fleet. Lee names Lampkin the President who apparently can't let go of his dog. Are dogs angels too? The two new leaders board the last raptor as well as Baltar's followers. At the last minute Baltar decides to stay on Galactica. Lee hands him a gun.

Before Galactica jumps, a roll call is made around the ship to make sure everyone is ready. Station by station, each person in charge answers Tigh with a "ready." It ends with Anders who has been plugged into CIC. Then Galactica jumps to the Colony.

And it's met with a barrage of gunfire. Anders contacts the Colony's hybrids, commanding them to stop. This gives Adama enough time to have the Vipers launched, and then he rams the battlestar into the Colony! By this time the Raptor Wranglers have arrived and landed on the Colony too, but Racetrack and Skulls have perished at the hands of space debris. Lee then arrives, leading a squad of humans and red-marked Centurions, and they run into older model Centurions. It soon becomes a Centurion-Centurion smackdown.

Meanwhile, Boomer kills the Simon who has been experimenting on Hera and takes her. They run into Helo, Athena, and Starbuck, and after handing the child over she says she's making one last choice. She then asks Athena to tell the Old Man she owed him one, and then Athena kills her. In a flashback, Adama gave Boomer one last chance to be a pilot, and she promised she would pay him back.

Back on Galactica, Baltar and Caprica hide behind some crates guarding the hallway. Caprica tells Gaius that she's proud of him, and because of this she loves him. They kiss and Head Six and Head Baltar suddenly appear to both of them. The former realize they can see these "angels." Then Gaius gets to shoot a dead Centurion, and he almost shoots Lee too, but Caprica stops him in time.

Helo and Athena have Hera and they're on Galactica, running from the Centurions who have invaded Galactica. A Doral model comes from behind and shoots at them, gravely injuring Helo. Hera runs away, and the vision of the Opera House takes over. Roslin gets drawn into the vision and realizes Hera is in trouble. She runs into the little girl and pulls her away just in time. They hide behind some crates as Cavil and his Centurions storm past. Then Hera runs away before Roslin can notice. Baltar and Caprica find her and carry her as they are drawn into the vision. They go through a doorway, the latch closing behind them, locking out Roslin and Athena. The Opera House becomes the CIC and the Final Five stand on the bridge of the deck, their faces aglow. Chaos surrounds them and Cavil takes Hera at gunpoint.

Yet here Baltar makes a wonderful speech about the angels and how they and god have been guiding the two races. The signs are there. The only thing missing is a tiny leap of faith. When Cavil questions this, Tigh offers up resurrection. Cavil agrees and releases Hera, countering that the colonials will have to trust him by taking their own leap of faith.

The Final Four join with Anders and share their memories of the resurrection technology; however, Tory isn't too keen on this, especially when she realizes that certain secrets might be revealed. When Tyrol sees that she killed Cally, he chokes Tory, snapping her neck. The Cylons fearing a trap turn on Galactica's crew and start firing. Cavil says "Frak!" Then he kills himself. Adama orders Starbuck to jump the fleet anywhere. In the distance, debris hits Racetrack's Raptor, causing her hand to fire nukes at the Colony. Starbuck realizes the Dylan music are jump coordinates, so she types those in, and Galactica jumps.

And Galactica breaks her back and can't jump again. Except as she flies, she goes over our moon and arrives at our Earth. The fleet has found its home.

The fleet decides to colonize on different parts of the planet and discard technology while granting the Centurions their freedom. Being as such, Anders will take the fleet into the sun. Before he does Starbuck kisses him goodbye, and a tear escapes his eye as he says that he'll see her on the other side. Adama takes one last look at Galactica as well, then he takes off in his reconstructed Viper. The original Battlestar Galactica theme plays as the fleet goes into the sun.

Back on Earth, the crew say goodbye and go their separate ways. Tyrol decides to live alone and go North, while Ellen and Tigh stay together. Roslin and Adama sit together watching animals graze. As her health fades, Bill decides to take her up in a raptor and give her a better view. He says goodbye to Lee and Kara telling them that he's not coming back. After he leaves, Kara tells Lee that her journey is over, and it's time for her to go. We flashback to when they first met, and now these two are somewhat drunk. Kara dares Lee to make out with her. He accepts, but when Zak wakes briefly after hearing a wine glass fall, they both realize what they're doing. It's a relationship that's not meant to be. The flashback ends and Lee talks about what he plans to do with his life. As he talks Kara disappears. He promises that she'll never be forgotten.

In the raptor, Roslin says a few words and then passes. When Adama notices, he takes her hand and puts his wedding ring on her finger. Then he says that he's found the place for their cabin. He buries her there.

Helo survives and between Athena and he they promise to show Hera how to hunt. Baltar and Caprica meet up with their angel dopplegangers, and are told that their lives will be less eventful. Then in a flashback Baltar is meeting Caprica and he tells her that he can get her a peek into the defense mainframe. He said then that it was because he loved her, and the flashback ends. Now he points out some terrain and mentions he knows something about farming as tears overcome him. Caprica kisses him realizing that he's content.

"The Shape of Things to Come" plays as the camera pans over Adama and Hera. Is this end?

Try 150,000 years later.

Angel and Demon, Head Baltar and Head Six, read over Ron Moore's shoulder and the announcement of Mitochondrial Eve. They talk about the decadence of the age and the return of technology.

"All this has happened before."
"But will it happen again?"

Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower plays as we see image after image of robots, more human and realistic than those that came before it.

Touche.

Review

I am perfectly content with this ending. I don't need to know what happens to Tigh, or Ellen, or Helo anymore, and I think in part that's what makes this finale a success. It gave them an ending. And though some of the characters end up alone, and some were left open-ended, like Starbuck's, it didn't leave me feeling like I had just spent five years invested in a show with no payoff.

Having said this, what an amazing finale!

First, the parts that I have always enjoyed the most were the smaller character moments, so one of my favorite scenes was Cottle's farewell to Roslin. It was beautifully acted and so touching. And I also loved the part in CIC where they're getting ready to jump the ship and Adama has to move some of the cables brought in by the Cylons. Tigh offers to blow the Cylons out of the airlock. That is such a Tigh thing to do, and it is so funny. The actor has such a twinkle in his eye. His one eye that manages to convey so much. This scene of course leads into the roll call, that I found as an interesting way to introduce you one last time to Galactica. It built up the tension and made you realize it really was going to be the end.

Then there is Roslin and Adama. This was their year. They finally found love together, and when they did, it became a beautiful love story. When she died it was devastating to see on the screen. It was beautifully acted and filmed, and I admit I cried for a good ten minutes during the finale. However, I'm glad Adama lived. Does it mean he's accepted her death? Maybe. Maybe not. But after all the Old Man has been through his life is not among those who have perished. He is living the rest of his life next to his posthumous wife, a lonely existence.

And when we last see Adama sitting on the hilltop with the lovely "The Shape of Things to Come" playing, signaling hope, Battlestar Galactica could have ended there. But it didn't. Instead modern day New York showed up, and it was jarring and weird, and I didn't like it at all on the first viewing. I had to think about it. So we're the descendants of the fleet? Of Hera maybe? And technology is back in our lives, and robots are looking more and more human everyday. Japan would definitely get a kick out of this show.

In a way I get Moore's message It's a brilliant message, and it works as an ending. Frankly, I just like my first ending better.

Questions

Was Starbuck an Angel or something else?

What happened to D'Anna?

What happened to the Centurions once they were released and given the baseship?


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{"commentId":6102558,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

This is the last recap for BSG. At least until the two hour movie, The Plan. And I will be back for Caprica.

Thanks everyone for reading and commenting on them.

I'm going to miss this show.

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Reply#1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:41 AM EDT
{"commentId":6103339,"authorDomain":"batteredknight"}

Yasmin, I wanted to thank you for the recaps you've been giving us. It's been a weekly read for me ever since I found your column.

Like you, I'm going to miss this show. The only thing I didn't like about the finale, is that it means the show is over. It's truthfully the only show I really watched. In a way it's kind of like losing a good friend.

At least I'll have the DVD's. I look forward to reading your review of The Plan and Caprica when they come out.

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#1.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT
{"commentId":6103511,"authorDomain":"nearmiss"}

Yasmin,

I absolutely loved the first hour and a half of the BSG finale. Cottle and Roslin's exchange was some of the best television I've ever seen. It was so moving and insightful. My other favorite part of the evening was when all the main characters met up in CIC. The chief kills Tory (which words can't comment the awesome factor), Cavil offs himself, and Starbuck saves everyone.

Then they're at earth. Earth at it's earliest stages. The exchange with Adama and Roslin was heart-breaking and sweet. I enjoyed Baltar's and Caprica's lines, especially with Baltar stating he understood farming. Starbuck? Vanish? Huh? And Lee's all alone, again.

Of everything I just couldn't accept was the "leaving technology behind" to start new. Yes, a do-over. But, come on. These people were used to running water, beds, manufactured food, medicine. I find it incredibly hard to believe that they'd all just leave it behind. Other than that, it was a great series. I am going to miss all the Friday night entertainment it gave my husband and me. And, thanks to you and Myk for always giving me something to look forward to with your recaps.

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#1.2 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":6105656,"authorDomain":"brianford"}
Of everything I just couldn't accept was the "leaving technology behind" to start new. Yes, a do-over. But, come on. These people were used to running water, beds, manufactured food, medicine. I find it incredibly hard to believe that they'd all just leave it behind.

Aww, c'mon. It's not like we're dealing with a fleet / crew which is known to mutiny over less.

Oh, wait.

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#1.3 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":6107600,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

Ah, Brian, ever so subtle. :)

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#1.4 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT
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{"commentId":6103591,"authorDomain":"katijackson"}

Great recap Yasmin! And an awesome job throughout the season and I too look forward to The Plan and Caprica with you.

I feel content with how it ended. And I am going to miss it. I cried, I gasped, I was nervous and anxious... and I enjoyed every minute of it.

I know many are probably upset that Kara was never fully explained. Exactly what was she? But I think that was the point- to not fully explain her, let each and every one of us think what we want to think about her. Angel? A higher power? A vision? And I am okay with that, she was one of my favorite characters and I am happy with her ending.

BSG you will be greatly missed, my friday nights will never be the same.

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Reply#2 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":6107704,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

I'm glad she wasn't explained either, though a nagging part of me wants to know, what the hell was she? Messenger? Illusion? Seeing her disappear was quite a surprise even if it fit.

I've heard that people are upset because the finale ended on such a spiritual note, but BSG had religion from the beginning. It fit. Starbuck was the harbinger of death, of two races and in the end one race was born. As to what this higher being is, I think it's up to us to decide.

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#2.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":6111585,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

She wasn't explained in the show, but she was explained out of it, as were Baltar and Caprica, as, essentially "angel/devil agents of the greater Whatever/God/Doesn't like to be called God", and that they knew people would be pissed. Well...I'm reminded of Amy Tan. If you know that - then fix it. Otherwise you're not producing something for the fans, but for your own ego, and I find that to be a little sad. The invited us on a journey - and then crapped out at the very end, when they could have at least given the hint of a reasonable explanation. Instead they gave (IMHO) the hint of an unreasonable one. I have no problem with the religious overtones - but some gesture toward cohesive theology would have been appreciated (by me, anyway).

Frankly the whole "Daniel" fiasco - even though the creators never intended people to latch onto it as they did - made more sense. I wish they'd run with that, instead.

I wish they just ended it at the gravesite, personally. And left Kara standing next to Lee. The end, and I'm happy.

I know it's apparently fantastically hard to end a series well - so few have done it - but there are those who have (Buffy, Babylon 5), and I'm certain that, with a little more thought, BSG could have joined them. For me though, it just hasn't.

It was still a good show though. ;)

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#2.2 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:42 PM EDT
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{"commentId":6103786,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

A spot-on recap, Yasmin, and I agree with you completely.

This was a wonderful finale to what I think has been the best television series ever, sci-fi or otherwise.

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Reply#3 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":6104499,"authorDomain":"QACoach"}

I don't feel any lingering sense of "I wonder what happened to ..." However, I did find the series finale less than satisfying in some way that I can only describe as "I hear this music playing, but I don't know what it means!"

Certainly, the majority of our questions were answered, and perhaps, its just my desire for the series to continue. However, I did find myself questioning whether 30,000+ people who lived a life interwoven with technology would unamimously want to scrap all that tech and march off into the wilderness with one bag of possessions. I found myself wondering why they would scrap an entire fleet of FTL ships? I could hardly imagine a Viper pilot making a decision to be earth-bound for the rest of his/her life. There just seemed to be too many logic gaps to me.

Yes, I know, they didn't want to repeat the whole human-cylon cycle. Seems to me, they more likely enabled that cycle by abandoning any technological advances they had made.

Still...I'll be there for the "The Plan" and "Caprica"!

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Reply#4 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":6104828,"authorDomain":"robinm85"}

Thanks for the recap, Yasmin. I found this column late but I'm glad I did. I think Kara was an angel sent to deliver the people to Earth. There's so much astrology and Jewish symbolism in this show, I don't know if anybody but me ever caught it. (12 planets?12 tribes? the 13th tribe being the lost tribe?)

I have a question. Why would Cavil shoot himself?

My boss talked about this finale this morning. I don't think he got the ending until I explained it to him. There's a driving force in the universe and it's God. And humans will continue to repeat the cycle over and over until we learn WE are not God.

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Reply#5 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":6107025,"authorDomain":"thelopes"}
I have a question. Why would Cavil shoot himself?

Only thing I could think of was to get the quickest path to death, to avoid the possible pain of torture, or merely being shot and left to bleed.

Isn't this the same Cavil that was pissed off back on New Caprica by being wounded, and having to crawl or something to try to kill himself to redownload?

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#5.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
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{"commentId":6105059,"authorDomain":"mightyblogger"}
Try 150,000 years later. Angel and Demon, Head Baltar and Head Six

So, was this the writers way of saying it's a loop? That New Earth was actually old earth and that they are all doomed to repeat it no matter how much they try not too?

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Reply#6 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":6113000,"authorDomain":"paulajacobssen"}

I think they were saying this scenario had been a pattern but doomed? No. Free will and all that.

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#6.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":6113248,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

Baltar and Six are supposed to be agents of something greater, but neither evil nor good, in and of themselves. They suggest this has happened before (when in Times Square) - it's been a repeating theme of the show - but also that perhaps things have changed, and perhaps this time the cycle won't repeat. I don't know about free will - again, the series speaks to only a limited amount of it - as, yes, the cycle does keep repeating, and, yes, many prophecies did somehow manage to come true, and, yes, otherwordly beings (angel-demons) did interact and guide us...

That's part of why I wish there were a more cohesive theology on display. It seems very thrown-together and, sometimes, contradictory. But then I guess religions often are.

As far as "new Earth" - they just named it that. Before it was "old Earth", and "Caprica" (and the other planets), and "Kobol", and who knows how many before that....

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#6.2 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT
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{"commentId":6106453,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}

For some strange reason, the article I clipped to this group doesn't show up in the group module. Rather than repeating myself, my thoughts and comments are here.

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Reply#7 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":6107014,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

I think the most unexpected moment for me was the inclusion of the original 1978 theme song orchestration, unexpected and fitting. While not all of the plot details were tied up, enough were wrapped up that I was left with an overall satisfied feeling. Hera as Mitochondrial Eve rocked.

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Reply#8 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT
{"commentId":6109243,"authorDomain":"crazyredhead1"}

I also have a couple of questions:

1.) Why does Angel Baltar at the end say God doesnt like to be called God? He then says silly me. I think I completely missed how to interpret those words because i am clueless as to why he said all that.

2.) Since the fossilized bones were of a young woman, does that mean Hera died young?

3.) You really expect me to believe all those people know how to live off of the land without their tech?

4.) What about the other cylons that know nothing of what happenned at the colony? Won't they still think they are at war and keep looking for that humans?

Ok, on to some other thoughts. I think Blatar talking about farming and cracking up was the single most moving part of the last epsiode. Here is a man tied up in his actions thinking nothing matters. Someone who shund every aspect of his past, finally embracing where he came from only when everything else is lost. loved it! I actually think Baltar redeemed himself with that line. The crying means you know he meant it.

I really felt sorrow when Anders said "See you on the other side." I never really liked his character, but his last lines also redeemed him in my eyes.

I am tickled pink that Galactica was the opera house! That ship played such a huge role in the series. I am not talking about a big role like in Star Trek. I mean Galactica herself ended up being a full fledged character, and she went out with style.

One last point. Colonel Tigh is still my favorite character. His laughs after he asked if Adama wanted to space the other cylons and after Adama made fun of Baltar on Earth were awesome. I am really gonna miss Tigh. It was nice to see his loyalty to Adama contributed to his and Ellen's troubles. A good example of true loyalty.

Good bye for now Yasmin and everyone else. I really enjoy bouncing ideas in here, and i will miss you all (until the new stuff anyway^^)

-V for Vorru

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Reply#9 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":6111096,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
3.) You really expect me to believe all those people know how to live off of the land without their tech?

They pretty much lived off the land in New Caprica...Sure, they had some tech, but not a lot.

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#9.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT
{"commentId":6111654,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

It is supposed to be pre-supposed that all the kill-all-the-human Cylons were destroyed by the black hole. (If there were any others, they didn't have resurrection anymore, in any case).

And I wouldn't be surprised if Hera died young. Not like there were a lot of hospitals around... Sad to think of her going like that, but I guess it would make sense.

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#9.2 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":6112057,"authorDomain":"crazyredhead1"}

Not all the clyons died in the black hole. Remember, the recon mission saw two base ships jump in and out. Thats how they found the spot for Galactica to jump in. Therefore, there are still at elast 2 base ships out there full of cylons still hunting humans.

I still dont think its reasonable to have all the survivors shun technology and go native. Imagine a random sampling of New Yorkers thrown onto a world with no tech where they are required to live off of the land. So many would die from not knowing how to survive. That was a crappy plan for survival by splitting everyone up with no tech.

Also where was Starbuck's role as the harbinger of death of the human race? She saved them all by finding Earth.

Still loved it overall! I also agree that it would have made a much better ending to have stopped at the grave site. Music was better there as well.

Vorru

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#9.3 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":6112324,"authorDomain":"chasing"}
Not all the clyons died in the black hole.

All I know is that during the interview with Ron Moore, he indicated that all Cavil's cylons were supposed to have died, but that it didn't come across as clearly, due to editing, as he'd wished. Maybe I misread and he meant just the colony. But you do have a point re: those base ships. So I dunno. But without resurrection technology, and without knowing where Galactica went, I don't know what the life span on one of those things is, but apparently they all died out before they got a chance to find Earth (v2).

I'm guessing (but don't know) that Starbuck was the harbinger of death for the Galactica humans. Afterwards they interbred with Earth humans and (I guess) Cylons - meaning an end to that genetic line (in a way)? But yeah, even that's a stretch... So I honestly don't know. Maybe a death to the cycle? Eh...

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#9.4 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT
{"commentId":6113489,"authorDomain":"thelopes"}

I'd agree with the death of the cycle. Or perhaps the death of the 12 colonies?

After the hybrid called her that, it said "You will lead them to their end." which she did.

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#9.5 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:27 PM EDT
{"commentId":6142631,"authorDomain":"eriqalan"}

I also don't agree with giving up technology or the ships so easily. Those ships had captains and crews whose egos and identity was tied up in that ship.

That might have been god for the story but not believable.

I would also like to have seen the angels / demons / Starbuck / etc. better developed; I think they just did not know how (and might have neded a few more hours / shows).

In the original series there was an "angels" ship that overtook Apollo & starbuck, their uniforms were white on the ship and returned to color when they left; their vipers were magically renewed like starbucks; but in the end the head of that entity turned out to be a demon who was also the voice Adama recognized as the head Cylon.

Nothing as complicated as that here - in fact, next to nothing at all but a poorly developed plot device.

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#9.6 - Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:06 AM EDT
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{"commentId":6111452,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

I would highly suggest to anyone who has not seen BSG to watch it, post haste, love it, and then NOT WATCH THE LAST HOUR. Instead, imagine where it all could have gone from there, and be lost in blissful thoughful wanderings. I honesty think it's best that way.

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Reply#10 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":6117792,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

It is as good a finale as any. I am a little annoyed that they didn't reveal who/what Starbuck was though.

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Reply#11 - Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:05 AM EDT
{"commentId":6117877,"authorDomain":"thura"}

Great recap. I have been staying away from review or comments in the last couple of week because I wanted to see everything in one go, so last weekend I watched all of Season 4 in 3 days!

Instead modern day New York showed up, and it was jarring and weird, and I didn't like it at all on the first viewing.

I enjoyed the show and the finale. The only thing jaring for me was the robots on TV at the end. I was quite ok with the NY scean, until they pan into the TV set!

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Reply#12 - Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:13 AM EDT
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I enjoyed the show and the finale. The only thing jaring for me was the robots on TV at the end.

Was a bit heavy-handed, for sure. It's like they had already provided the punch-line, but felt the need to over-explain it, which made the *entire* series feel like it led-up to that one scene.

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#12.1 - Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:26 AM EDT
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I'm torn by the robot scene. Which is why I'll come back to this after work.

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#12.2 - Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:29 AM EDT
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Yaz,

Your recaps really helped me get all the info I needed to really appreciate the scope of the series as a whole. I admit that I was not so hooked on the show at first, but like a nice slow cooked piece of pork shoulder, it was awesomely tender and flavorful after a good full braise...Eck...Anyhoo....
I guess I found your work too late, but all's well that ends well. Cheers!
Albeit I was hoping for a more cylon- oriented end for the Kara Thrace arc, but hey, what can you do?

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Reply#13 - Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:21 AM EDT
{"commentId":6120556,"authorDomain":"jeremyemalheim"}

Yas, thank you for your work on all of the write ups. To say I enjoyed reading them is an understatement.

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Reply#14 - Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:50 AM EDT
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Thank you. :p They were stressful to write but fun!

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#14.1 - Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:23 AM EDT
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{"commentId":6163259,"authorDomain":"jyuma"}

yasmin,

Thanks for all the work you have done here. I always look forward to your updates.

My favorites takeaways from the finale

Adama puking in the street.

Tyrol snapping Tory's neck and Cavil eating that bullet.

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Reply#15 - Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:59 AM EDT
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